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Sub Q Fluids = No Blood In Urine: Momma Beans Assumptions Prove Correct

(Above graphic courtesy of ML at the Cat Blogosphere. Thanks for keeping us in your prayers ML and everyone at the CB!)
Momma beans assumptions are proving correct. Above is a picture of Moki's latest urine sample, taken only moments ago. If we can maintain these urine sample results for the next 10 days while Moki remains on sub-q-fluids, then we can assume with some certainity, that the blood in Moki's urine is being caused as a result of Moki not fully expressing his bladder. The thought process here is that because of Moki's neurological condition, he does not consume as much water or fluids as a normal cat. This in turn means that Moki's bladder does not fill up as quickly, which means that the urine is sitting in Moki's bladder for a longer period of time then normal. Because the urine is sitting in Moki's bladder and not being expressed as often as would be expected in a normal cat, Moki's bladder is getting irrated, hence the blood.
So the trick is to find a way to increase Moki's water consumption moving forward...Moki will remain on sub q fluids while we paly around with various ways to do this, such as getting him a drinkwell fountain, and or placing more bowls of fresh water closer to the areas of the house that he frequents. (Currently there is a bowl or two of fresh water in every room of the house, but if we keep the bowls of water closer to where Moki sleeps he may be adapt to drink more. We'll have to play around and see.)


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So that is where we are currently at. As of an hour ago, Moki started the first dose of Tamiflu. He is still congested, but the blood in his urine is gone. His appetite has become touch and go, as of today he is not eating large qualities of food, but is taking a few bites here and there. I am going to up his dose of L-Lysine and Super Charger and see if maybe that will stimulate him to eat more, if not, we'll just do a combination of him eating on his own and force feeding. I think once the Tamiflu kicks in he'll be alright. For the most part, he appears not to want to eat a lot and I believe that is because of the congestion. Once the Tamiflu starts working to clear the congestion, I think we'll see him eating on his own regularly again. In the meantime I am going to play it safe just to make sure he is getting enough food in him, since he is so small.

Thank you to everyone who is continuing to purr and pray for Moki. Your support means a great deal to us!

-------------P.S.-------------

Ikaika, we couldn't find your blog, so we thought we'd leave a message for you here being as it may be useful for others as well. A friend of ours on Catster, Doc emailed us about a company who sells Lactated Ringers Solutions (sub-q-fluids) for only $3.00 a bag, or $23.00 for a box of 12. This is by far one of the best deals we have seen and wanted to pass the word along to others who may be needing sub-q-fluids. If you need sub-q-fluids and are interested in checking the company out, their web address is: http://www.thrivingpets.com/products/item-detail.php?formStockId=860P112 (You will of course need a prescription from your vet to get these...)

Anyhow, if you know of a company that can beat this price, please let us know. We'd be more than happy to share the news with everyone. Thus far however, Thriving Pets, has the lowest prices on sub-q-fluids that we have found.

:)

--------UPDATE--------

The Tamiflu is working! We will have a full update for everyone later tonight after momma bean finishes studying for and takes a geology test which is due this evening.

76 comments:

Niko and Cloud said...

What is super charger?

Also, have you tried heating up his canned food for him? He may be more able to smell it then and want to eat more.

Sending you lots of purrs,Moki!

Niko & Cloud

Tiki, Kirby, and StanLee said...

Good job, Momma bean! Atta boy, Moki! Purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

ANGEL ABBYGRACE said...

woohoo go Moki!

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meemsnyc said...

Yeah Moki!! We are so glad you are doing better!!

Karen said...

We have a drinkwell and it is great. Mom says she can see in the litter that we drink more water. we are glad he is doign better we are still purring

The Florida Furkids said...

Keep eating Moki! We're purring as loud as we can for you.

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caspersmom said...

Fight on Moki. Purrs a Prayers for your complete recovery.

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Jans Funny Farm said...

You sure are persistent. Sounds like you've figured this out. I hope Moki starts eating and drinking more and gets better.

mog said...

You smart mommy. Also if the urine sits in his bladder for a longer period of time, he is more prone to getting UTI's. Glad he is doing better on the sub-q fluids.

Way to go Moki!

The drinkwell fountain sounds ideal. Hope you can get one.

Chesney Cats said...

Moki, what a wonderful mama you have!! We're purring & purraying that you feel better in no time!

Karen Jo said...

Yay for figuring out the blood in Moki's urine. I hope that he will soon be on the road to complete recovery from this set of problems. I will keep praying for him every day.

Anonymous said...

We are overjoyed that Moki seems a little better. We know there is a long way to go to get him completely sorted but we are hopeful tht with love and vets help, and hisloving Mom's help - he will get better.

We love you Moki - stay well. You have a lovely kind Mom to help you.

Tuck said...

Keep fighting Moki! I'm so glad to hear that you are doing better. You are lucky to have such a good mama...I think she'll fund a way to help you eat and start to drink more. Purrs to you both...
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mommeh saz, her iz angry yoo haz ta pay waste disp. Iz dere anyway yoo can take the hazardous waste stuffs- and send it to us? Shipping it to us will cost less than each time you go and pay. AND- my clinic disp. of it for free! So, if you can find a way, put them in a milk carton or something sturdy, box it, and send it to us. We'll disp of it for you. Its insane and an insane amount of cash you're putting into WASTE disposal! Ohhhh it makes me mad!

Alexi said...

Hi Moki,
Glad that you have a smart momma bean.
My mombean says and we kittehs agree. WE LUV our drinkwell pet fountains. The water poring from the spout is so MUCH FUN to us kittehs. Mombean thinks we drink more. Now some of us will ONLY drink from the sink faucet. Perhaps your momma bean could try a drinkwell pet fontehn?? They are lots of FUN !
Alexi and the Castle Cats

The Island Cats said...

Yay Momma bean! You are so smart! Now, Moki, if you'd only start eating some more...maybe your mom bean could heat your food up a little in the microwave...sometimes making it smell more will make it more appetizing!

Daisy said...

EUREKA! I love it when you come upon a solution to a puzzling medical issue. And I'll bet Moki feels much better without all that irritating concentrated bloody urine in him.

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The Lee County Clowder said...

We've had a Drinkwell Platinum for a month or so, and we love it. (The Food Source, not so much. He keeps muttering about how he has to fill the blankity blank thing like about every other day, almost)

Have you tried Cosequin? Not sure if we ever suggested it or not, but it might help protect Moki's bladder wall. Luna used to have lots of bladder problems, and it seemed to help her. You might want to check with the V*T next trip, if you're not getting something stronger from the V*T beans, already.

Glad to know Moki is on the mend.

Motor Home Cats said...

Woohoo - we are so glad that Moki's urine is not bloody any more. We hope that he will continue to fight as hard as he has been.

Tavi, Cody, Camie and Miss Jade

Unknown said...

Sending love and prayers your way, Moki! So glad your mom is a very smart caretaker. You are in great hands. Keep getting better, please!

JB's Big and Small Worlds said...

Sending purrs and purrayers your way Moki!
My mom must be getting ripped off on Misty's fluids @ $36/bag!!
--JB

Southbaygirl said...

Mom and all of us sure do hope the sub-q's make Moki feel better! We know they made Winton feel better while he was getting them!!

We're purring for you Moki!!

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Black Cat said...

Yay for Moki not peeing blood! That's good news. Now he needs to eat more and gain weight. You are a very clever and kind mommy for Moki. I do hope he goes on improving. :) xxx

Boy n Beethoven said...

I'm so gwad for Moki!
Yay!
Sending more purrs for you Moki!
Purr purr purr purr purr....

Boy

MaoMao said...

Awwww, Moki! You have a wunnerful Momma. We are purrin as hard as we can for you!

Kittyhugs and purrs from MaoMao!

The Florida Furkids said...

We're looking forward to the update - PURRR PURRR PURRRR

Sniffie and the Florida Furkids

Sweet Purrfections said...

Moki, you sure are a fighter! Way to go mom. Special purrrrrrrrs!

ratmammy said...

it's good to hear that moki is doing better. fyi, though - your theory about the urine sitting in the bladder makes no sense. the bladder was made to withstand urine. and urine does not sit in the bladder for long periods of time because there isnt' enough of it to void. you take in fluid, you out put fluid. simple as that. if moki is bleeding because the urine is in the bladder too long, that means there is something other seriously wrong with moki. urine will not make the bladder bleed. blood could be a sign of cancer, or infection, or something else wrong with the bladder.

anyway... i am sad that moki is suffering so much. however, if he's eating ,that's a good sign. it means he's feeling better for a change.

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